Tonight on Playboy Radio: Talk Dirty To Me (1979)

Tonight on Playboy Radio Nightcalls with Debi Diamond and  Nicki Hunter (Sirius XM 102, 7:45pm Eastern)  we’re going to be talking about Anthony Spinelli‘s 1979 classic, Talk Dirty to Me.

We’ve talked about Talk Dirty to Me 2, but not the original, so let’s have at it.

We first meet smooth-talker Jack (John Leslie) and his slow-witted sidekick Lenny (Richard Pacheco) at the beach as they watch hang gliders under the opening credits.  (Fun trivia, editor Tim McDonald  would later direct Talk Dirty to Me 2.) Jack and Lenny go get some coffee and Cracker Jacks from a truck run by Herbie (Anthony Spinelli) and Patty (Holly McCall).  Holly gets all up in Jack’s grill, asking him when they can get together again and he says she needs to exercise a little more.  Lenny chimes in and says that Jack promised that Lenny could fuck her, but that really sets her off and she pushes Lenny down a sand dune.  The overly protective side of Jack comes out, physically shoving Patty aside to get to Lenny’s aid.  He brings Lenny to a doctor.

Cut to the doctor’s office, and the doctor (Cris Cassidy) is filling out some paperwork. She explains that Lenny’s leg isn’t broken, just sprained.  Jack then gets right in with the dirty talk. “You’re a damned good looking woman, you know that? … I wouldn’t pay you shit, but I bet some heavy dude would pay big bucks to get into your pants.  Big bucks…”  He gets in close, smells her up … She retorts “I want you to know you’re not impressing me with your hot mouth!”  and so it goes — he asks to suck on her tits (she pulls her blouse shut) and he leans in, and she gets all upset and he really turns on the charm and whips his cock out right there.  “My cock wants you.  Look!  Give it a little touch.. please?” and she’s on the hook.  Jack tells her to get to his apartment after her last patient and he goes in the back to get Lenny.

Lenny is worried that the coffee-truck girl doesn’t like him, but Jack assures him she does.  The doctor returns and tells Jack she can’t make it later, and Jack tells Lenny to go wait in the car.  Lenny puts up a faint protest, and Jack ravages the doctor.  He pulls her hair out of its bun, and she drops to her knees and inhales his dick.  He leans her back on a couch and eats her out for a while (big bush alert!) before fucking her missionary.  He pulls out and cums on her face.

A quick note on the women, none of them are really HAWT by today’s standards, but that doesn’t make them any less sexually arousing.  They’re attractive, but not stunningly so.  They actually seem like women you’d see on the street.

We then meet Jesie St. James who is helping her husband, Frank (Aaron Stuart), pack for a business trip. She comes into the room in a thin nightgown, poses in the doorway and quotes “To Have and Have Not” (“put your lips together and blow…“)  She then tells him they have an hour to spare before his trip, and she wants some.  She tells him what to do, and he’s resistant with her choice of language.  “I love your breasts” he says.  “Can’t you say tits?  Call them tits!  Say you want to suck my tits!  Say you want to suck my pussy!  Goddamn it, Frank!  I want to hear it.  I need to hear it!” he says he loves her, but he just can’t do it.  So she blows him anyway.

A quick note on Frank.  Frank is not HAWT by any standard, but he is absolutely the correct look for the businessman husband who has fallen into a rut and would make his wife wander.  He’s physically fine, good cock, not fat, but he’s got a pronounced receding hairline…

Jesie looks older than she is – she was only 25 when she made this, but looks early 30s.   She’s got some serious tan lines, and really gets into the fucking.  Frank throws a vigorous hump into her, and she squeals and bucks around until he cums on her ass.

Back on the beach, Lenny is girl watching and hands Jack the binoculars and has him look at Jesie who is strolling down the beach.  Jack says he can “fuck her to death” in three days, and the game is afoot.

They boys follow her to a movie theatre, and Jack strikes up a conversation about classic 1941 movies.  She’s cool to his conversation; he complains about ticket prices ($5.00!) and gas ($2!) and parking ($5!) and she leaves.  The boys follow her home and they find the house next door is empty and up for sale, so they squat in it to stay close… and so they can spy on her prancing around her room in her bra and panties.

The next day, Jack shows up at her house, offering his handyman services.  She’s skeptical enough of the coincidence to give him a series of fake names (Mrs. Miniver, Mrs. Dietrich) and they discuss Casablanca, and he’s got himself a job cleaning the house.

Cut to Aunt Peg as a realtor and and Carl Regal as her client, and she tries to make the sale by licking her fingers, running them across his lips and then across her pussy lips.  The client freaks out and gets out of there.  Jack is watching from the second floor and tells her blew the sale, and she’s taken aback that he’s squatting.  He tells her to not cover up as he likes a nasty pussy.  She says she’ll call the cops, and he says if she does, he’ll “rape the shit out of her.”  He puts his hands on her shoulders and slowly pushes her to her knees.  He kneels too and gives her a kiss.  The opens her blouse and she’s ready to play. She tells him what to do, and they get right down to fucking on the landing. As Jack fucks her, we see Lenny watching from the second floor, and we’re not sure how he feels about it.  Aunt Peg tells Jack not to come inside her, as she wants to suck him to climax, and she goes absolutely crazy sucking his cock until he cums all over her tongue.  She laughs and grins through the whole thing, which might be the sexiest part.    She continues to flick the head of his cock with her tongue, causing Jack to fall apart in laughter.  Lenny looks forlorn and leaves.  She tells Jack that he needs to be out of the house by Friday.

Jack does some shirtless work in the yard which drives Jesie crazy.  They talk more about movies as she dips her legs in the pool, and after work, she gets him a beer.  He asks to use her phone — “Do you have a date?”  she asks “Something like that.” — and he calls Rose (Sharon Kane) and talks dirty to her on the phone as Jesie listens in on the extension. (Try doing that with a cel phone!)  Jesie ends up in the shower touching herself a little, thinking about what she overheard.

Lenny comes upstairs with Rose and Jill (Dorothy Lemay) who are looking for some fun.  Jill would really like to get it on with Jack, but Rose won’t let her.  When Lenny says they’re out of beer, he and Jack run off, leaving the girls to groom their pubic patches (seriously).

When Jack gets back, he brings Rose into Jesie’s house and they fuck doggie style outside her bedroom door as she sleeps.  Couple funny bits as Jack pulls Rose’s hair, she swats him away and as she’s cumming, Jack has her bite/suck on his finger to keep her from waking up Jesie.  It’s a pretty hot scene as they try to keep quite while fucking like bunnies.

Jesie’s sex dreams are driving her crazy and she fires Jack in the morning. He lays some more dirty talk on her and she asks him “Is that the only way you know how to talk?  Dirty?”  “To you,” he says with a devilish grin and she runs back into the house.

He follows her into her room, comes up behind her and says “You know, there’s 13 places a man should kiss?” and as he runs down the list, she melts like butter.

Meanwhile, Rose is with Lenny in some room decorated with Raggedy Ann dolls all over the walls.  She’s pissed that Jack is “probably getting laid right now… and he won’t even give me the signal!”  Lenny sticks up for his friend saying “igf Jack said he’ll give you a signal, he’ll give you a signal.”  “You really trust him?” she says. “You bet!”

Back in Jesie’s room, Jack strips naked and lies on the bed.  She asks “Will you speak dirty to me, like you did to that girl on the phone?” and she gets undressed.  She gets on the bed and starts wriggling like a spider dropped on a hot frying pan.  She asks Jack to do the things she asked Frank to do, and he complies.  He’s more than happy to eat her pussy, and tell her about it as he does it.

Back with Lenny and Rose, she notes that he’s been wearing the same shirt for two weeks and helps him out of it.  She asks him if he’s ever been kissed, and he says “A little bit” and then she asks “Would you like me to kiss you right now?” and he nods.  The sweet kiss is defanged by an odd intercut of Jack nose deep in pubic hair.

Then Rose tells Lenny how to eat her pussy and we get cross cutting between the two meals.

Jack crawls up her body and thrusts his cock in her mouth, “do you want me to fuck your mouth?  Say so!  Say it!”  “I want you to fuck my mouth!

In the other room, there’s no talking going on; ; just Rose gently working on Lenny’s cock.

Finally, both couples start fucking in missionary — Jack and Jesie loud and vocal, Lenny and Rose very quiet and tender until finally, Lenny cums inside Rose and Jack thrusts out and does the patented John Leslie No Hands Cumshot ™ on Jesie’s belly.

Lenny asks Rose if he made her happy, and when she says yes, he starts excitedly bouncing up and down on her like a little kid.

YogaGirl describes the last scenes as:

Jesie wakes up in a foul mood the next morning, but John seduces her via the “13 places a man should kiss when he makes love to a woman.” They tease each other with racy language and roughhouse passionately in her bed. John dives into the oral with boyish enthusiasm and then happily fucks her mouth when she requests it. John makes Jesie scream with pleasure by pumping her hard and fast in missionary. He slides his cock along the crease between her abdomen and thigh as he creams. This entire scene is intercut with footage of Richard losing his virginity to Sharon. Some viewers dislike intercut footage, but in this case, the contrast between John and Richard’s experiences is essential to the story. Sharon first coaxes Richard to explore her pussy with his tongue and then caresses his cock in her mouth. He enters her shyly in missionary, constantly kissing her while he finds his rhythm. There’s no cumshot, yet Richard’s orgasm is surprisingly convincing. The eroticism lies in their realistic facial expressions and his tender query, “Did that make you happy?”

Afterwards, Jack is dressed and says “Here’s looking at you, kid” while a ragtime variation of As Time Goes By plays on the soundtrack, and he’s gone, leaving her to ponder the events of the last three days.

And there you have it.  A classic from the word go, and deservedly so… tho I really wish Dorothy LeMay did more than walk around pantless and brush her pubic hair.

The movie is at a much slower pace than today’s porn.  I think it’s erotic as opposed to pornographic.  Scenes are shorter since it was expected you’d be watching in a theatre, and a 35 minute scene doesn’t play well in a theatrical setting.  (It plays great at home, because through the magic of the FF button, you can make it into a 10 minute scene.)

 Imperator makes an excellent point in his review of the movie:

And John Leslie is pretty damn effective. He’s so seductive he almost charmed the pants off me :-). Jessie is a damn fine actress too and perfectly manages the rather difficult task of showing the gradual yielding to his charms. Many on-screen seductions -and that holds for mainstream too- are botched by what I call the “activation energy effect”. The lady is stone cold, no matter what the fella does and then, all of a sudden, she just becomes putty. Bull, I say. Women are people (though IMHO a different species of the genus homo:-)), and people don’t behave like that. Read Christopher Hampton’s exquisite theatrical adaptation of Laclos’ “Les Liaisons Dangereuses” for a well-made seduction, and the pathetic melting of Turandot in Puccini’s otherwise brilliant opera to see how it should NOT be done. Da Ponte’s Don Giovanni lies somewhere in between I think.

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The Imperial verdict. You saw it coming. Flawless. Riveting and erotic, Spinelli’s masterpiece can justly breathe along with its “Sex World” brethren that rarefied air of perfection.

CJ Lines sums up the movie thusly:

The film overall has it’s flaws, no doubt, and the plot falls apart a little in the last few minutes, but it’s got a wonderful Summery vibe, some smooth, laid-back humour, excellent acting, hot sex and a sense of real enjoyment flowing through it, all of which helps elevate it to the status of a genuine XXX legend.

And be on the look out for John Leslie’s Jimmy Stewart impression… pretty great stuff!

Here’s the opening credit sequence with the hang-gliders.  According to the YouTube description: “An adult film company came to Fort Funston in 1980 to shoot their opening sequence. They filmed Dan Racanelli and Tom Low flying state-of-the-art gliders. Unfortunately, neither of the pilots were asked for further involvement in the film. ;-)”

 

Tonight on Playboy Radio: Taboo II and the Golden Age of Porn

Had a great time tonight (2011 Aug 25) on Playboy Radio‘s Night Calls talking with Nicki Hunter and Debi Diamond about Kirdy Stevens’ 1982 classic, Taboo II.

The movie stars Kevin James and Dorothy LeMay (even though they inexplicably put Tammy/Bambi on the box cover, LeMay is so much hotter. Memo to self, find better headshot for Dorothy…) as brother and sister who after some trepidation live out that old adage “if you can’t keep it in your pants, keep it in the family.”

The story (story!!) picks up a little bit after Taboo, where we follow Mike Ranger’s girlfriend (Dorothy LeMay) as she and her brother, Junior (Kevin James), run into Mike’s mother (Kay Parker) at her stationary stop. Running into her son’s ex-girlfriend sends her to her friend Aunt Peg, who gives her a massage. Junior, knowing a fine piece of tail when he sees one, follows her over and ends up banging Kay and Aunt Peg right there on the massage table. Â During the romp, it comes out that Kay slept with her son, and this gets Junior to reconsider what a hottie he has in his sister, and he sets out to tap it.

There is lots of tease and build up in Junior’s seduction of his sister and it climaxes with his girl friend (Tammy) eating his sister out on the family room couch when Junior just slides himself in there and takes over. From there, the taboo has been broken, and we find everyone in the family torn apart by the action.

We also follow the action of Junior’s parents played by Eric Edwards and Honey Wilder. They’re in a largely sexless marriage, so it’s only a matter of time before Dad boffs Daughter and Mom rides Junior.

And this being the end of the swinging 70s, the movie could not be considered complete without a giant suburban orgy where we have most of the cast list (including a young up and cummer named Ron Jeremy!)

Perhaps the most striking thing about the movie is the notion of consequences. No one is living happily ever after in either of these movies, which is quite a difference from the normal “fuck and live to fuck some more” vibe that is in most porno.

We also spoke of The Golden Age. Back in the late 90s, we covered it like this in the Adult Movie FAQ:

The following comes from Peter van Aarle’s excellent web page (mirrored at http://www.rame.net/aarle/golden_age.html) regarding the “Golden Age” of porn films.

Ah, the good old days, when the words “shot on video” were unheard of, and they actually had budgets to shoot an adult movie <sigh>

When the plot of a porno movie wasn’t limited to “Gee, I don’t seem to have the money to pay for the pizza! Now what do we do?” and the talent actually were sent the script in advance to learn their lines.

Heck they even were known to have occasional rehearsals :-)

Oh well, no use crying over things that once were. With the present glut of cheap product (over 2500 pornos were released in the US in 1994!) a good movie is difficult to make. That is to say, you can still make a good movie if you invest time and money in it, but a 4 times higher budget is unfortunately no guarantee for a 4 times higher return.

In fact, the only people who can change things are we the consumers. If we make sure that cheap one-day-wonders don’t make their producers much money then (and only then) is the general quality likely to improve. After all, why should Joe Producer invest a lot of time and effort in making a good product when producing crap lets him rake in the bucks anyway…

So we have the choice: either scour the shelves for hours to try and find the few pearls among today’s dreck or go back to those classics of yesteryear. If you want to try your luck with todays product (which isn’t all bad, really), I would suggest reading some of the reviews posted to the alt.sex.movies newsgroup to help distinguish between the good and the bad. Many of these reviews are archived at several sites.

“Ok”, you say “but what if I want some of those classics? How do I know what to look for?”
Well fear no more, here for your browsing pleasure is a list of many of the best porno movies ever made. Many of them are from the so-called Golden Age which is generally considered to have been from about 1977 to 1982.

Which isn’t to say that there have not been some good movies made before or since that time, nor that there weren’t some awful ones produced during the period, it’s just that so many of the classics were made during that period…

So look at these lists of the true Classics, some very good movies, and some movies which may not stand up to our high standards today but which are nonetheless historically significant.

Revered and greatly missed adult reviewer Imperator had this to say about the epochs of porn:

A note on the Ages according to Me. Note that like all historical divisions these are approximate :-). –

  • The Golden Age is 1976-1984. I have slightly extended it from the traditional 1977-1982 to include “Misty B.” and the many excellent movies of 1984. The Golden Age ends with the retirement of Annie and the rise of Ginger (not that it was Ginger’s fault of course :-)). The fringe period is great fun, since it includes the first Angel & Ginger flicks and Bridgette Monet.
  • The Silver Age (my real sentimental favourite) should strictly be 1984-1986, i.e. up to the retirement of Ginger and Traci, but 1987-1989 had many nice movies with essentially the same stars as 1984-1986, so I’ll include 1988.
  • The period 1988-1995 can be divided and named in many ways. A friend calls it the Cheapskate Age or the Crap Age, but it is innaccurate since it ignores Leslie & Stagliano.
  • The term “Silicone Age” only applies to post 1992 IMHO.
  • The term Neon or Pretentious Age for 1989-1992 does include most of Blake, but it really disregards the rest of the crap… I mean the material :-).  So, my opinion is that the traditional apellation of “Iron Age” is the best and safest.
It looks like the Playboy Radio segment is going to be a standing gig on Thursday nights around 8:30 Eastern / 5:30 Pacific. See you next week.